In this episode, Cathi and Jo consider if “middler” age is a thing, if people in the 35-45 age group really have their lives together (or is it all fake for social media posts?) and what they will be doing when they are 65. 

In a brilliant interview with our guest Phil Zeidler from life insurance provider, DeadHappy, we take a turn into ‘The Venn Diagram of Tabooness’ (thanks Jo) – namely death and money.  It’s a hard subject to talk about, but DeadHappy has turned insurance on its head by talking about ‘Death Wishes’ instead of insuring a life, making the concept simple, tangible and straightforward.